OK, here is a doozy.. I recently cottoned onto these ‘micro MIDI’ controllers by the Australian music-tech mob called ‘Pirate Midi’ - specifically their ‘Sctibble’ devices that are mini MIDI controllers that you configure via USB and have built in BluTooth so you can send presets to the device via Bluetooth! It works really well with the Chase Bliss App, so you can send presets directly off your ios or Android device to nearly all the Chase Bliss Pedals. It would be great if there were presets for the Ribbons or that let you instantly access pre-set ‘touch modes’! Anyway let the discourse/learning begin! I can see there are Midi codes/message in the manual i will start to experiment with that. I understand the ‘ribbons’ it preset to Midi ‘A’.
SO the ‘scribble’ has been set to MIDI type-A all the program settings as assigned to Channel1. Basically what I am trying to do it trigger the 8 ‘ribbons’ presets via the Scribble ‘click’. So the Scribble shows the Presets change on each click up and down, but the presets aren’t changing on the Ribbons. ALSO, The ‘scribble’ has Kinotone ‘ribbons’ in their config device library, which the messaging codes as per the ‘ribbons’ MIDI manual.
Which version of Ribbons do you have?
Is it the version with the CV/EXP and MIDI jack labels on the face or are those labels on the sides above the jacks?
What are the internal jumpers on Ribbons set to?
Do you have any other MIDI tools to verify that Ribbons is receiving MIDI data?
Hi Jaak,
Thanks for the response, problem solved!.. FYI:
- My Ribbon is FM2.0, MIDI on side above guitar ports
- Internal Jumpers set to Midi ‘A’
- Everything was fine. I had to reset the ‘Scribble’, which lets me easily cycle through Presets 1-8!! Now to see how it can make the Looper easier to use!
- A request - would it be posible keep say an ‘effected/’ loop going on the ‘disintegration’ loop preset and by-pass the incoming signal? So effectively having each as an independent channel that can have effects laid onto them, or do you have to do that via the 4-track looper?
Set the pedal to buffered bypass with trails. Then you can make a loop and effect it, bypass the pedal, and still hear your loop playing back while your input signal stays dry.
Do you happen to have any demos showing scribble with Ribbons?? Was very curious what is needed and how seamlessly it works!
About the 49second mark I start cycling through the standard ribbons presets that affect the loop. You write Midi command via a Web Interfact via the USB-C port of the scriblble
Is it possible to save LOOPS using the 4-track looper as presets that you can call up a-la the ‘Blooper’, or it is just a turn-on-turn-off looper?
Loops are not savable inside Ribbons, so once you clear them or power-cycle the pedal, they’re gone.
SO my next question would be, is there a way to switch from ‘touch’ to ‘lopoer’ mode via footswitch, ie without having to press the ‘push’ button? Could you set a Midi preset to activate looper mode with ‘one touch’?
Yes, you can, check the MIDI implementation chart.
Ribbons responds to MIDI CC31 to switch modes from Tape Effects to Looper.
In fact, you have a lot of direct control over tracks of the 4-track looper via MIDI (speed, direction, scale and volume).
it would be brilliant if they could be saved and called up via Midi like my Blooper..oh well..
OK so what i have is as follows:
- Added ‘CC31 value 65’ to Preset 9(10 on Pirate midi) which when i click up via the ‘scribble’ goes into ‘Looper’ mode. I captured a short unaffected loop.
- When I click ‘down’ to preset 8, I get the ‘endless reverb’ preset that apllies itself to the loop, now affected, and so on an so forth! Great
- This allows me to cycle to the ‘Looper’ mode and actually change the ‘master volume’ on the playing loop, but then click back to a ‘tape effect’ preset which add onto the loop,acting like a mixer!
- When I click back up to the preset 9, I get the unaffected loop still playing, until I stop it within that mode!
This is all great. I think i can send ‘tape effect’ presets to the other Scribble presets as they have they have template midi commands for hundreds of devices including the Kintone ‘Ribbons’ and.. ‘Ghosts’..!
I think you don’t even need to go to the 4-track looper mode to control the volume of the individual tracks.
I will double-check, but I believe track volume controls (CC 37, 41 etc) are “direct”, i.e. via MIDI you can control those parameters, regardless of what “mode” the pedal’s UI is in.
That is right. If you want to record to a specific track, then you need to be in Looper mode on that track.
If you have loops playing back though, you can send the CCs for track direction, speed, volume, scale, and it doesn’t matter if you’re in Looper or Tape mode.
I have basicially set Preset 9 to ‘looper’ mode, but haven’t specified the ‘track’..Do I a need to send another command in the preset to set it to track one? I presume it just starts at track one, then i can inteact with the ‘push’ buttons pedal to switch to track 2,3,4? Just confused with the logivc order from the Scibble to the Ribbons settings. The Scribble only have two ‘buttons’, I basically use it to cycle up-down and load presets and then interact with the pedal directly from there
Oh I see. The CC for “switch to Looper mode” will automatically pull up track 1 if you’ve power cycled, otherwise whichever track you were last on.