Did a Ribbons deep dive on YouTube in anticipation of Friday's sale

Kinotone Ribbons is a BBC Radiophonic Workshop but in a pedal

I was watching this Delia Derbyshire video and I kept thinking “Ribbons is basically this” and since more are going to be available to the public with the sweet 2.0 firmware I thought I’d make a video. It is…disorganized and sloppy. But it has chapters!

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Great demo! I really got good feel for the interface. Appreciate you leaving the “mistakes” in too.

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Hey, thanks for making this! I don’t think anyone has tried to make that point in a video before - Ribbons doesn’t just emulate the sound of tape but also how it behaves, which really comes across when you showcase what you can do with the loopers.

I also appreciated that you talked about the INIT preset right away and used it frequently. It’s such a useful trick.

Only critique is that you gotta get a mute switch or something for that sequencer so you don’t have keep unplugging it, haha :sweat_smile:

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Great deep dive! Thanks so much for making this!

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Thanks for watching!

you gotta get a mute switch or something for that sequencer so you don’t have keep unplugging it

Yeah, the idea was to make it visually obvious when the sound was coming from the synth vs the pedal’s buffers but there’s an unfortunate KERCHONK when transitioning between them via plugging/unplugging :grimacing: :electric_plug:

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This video came on my feed last night, and I had no idea what you meant bey BBC Studio, but after watching the BBC Archive video, I’m totally amazed. Even the name of the pedal, Ribbons suddenly becomes clear.

Great job!

Oh and unplugging the pedal really helped. I’m a looper guy, and I’ve seen so many videos where you have no idea, is it the looper or are they playing into it. Pulling the plug made it totally clear what was happening.

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This is a really great video! I also watched the Delia Derbyshire video as well for context. Love those old recordings!

One thing I also noticed, as you experienced in your video is with the looper and how it seems to lose the original pitch of the loop if you change the pitch with the continuously variable pitch, but then try to get it to jump back using the octave constraint. This is around the 14:17 mark in your video. @jaakjensen have you experienced this or has anyone else reported it?

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@TheTimberOwls if you bump the Speed knob even slightly before recording, and Speed Scale is set to continuous (which is the default when you power cycle), then pitching shifting your loop is relative to the speed you recorded at.

So say you record something at 1.1x speed, and then change Speed Scale to octaves - the loop will be slightly detuned because it forces it to 1x and drops the pitch.

If you want to guarantee that loops that are quantized you can set Speed Scale to chromatic or one of the other options before recording.

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That’s the answer! Thank you!

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Enjoying this walkthrough. I somehow missed this feature of bypass + comp/saturation to change which effect you get. I guess I’m not on the latest firmware though unfortunately, and I’m kind of dreading the WAV method of updating it.

On that subject - does anyone else have issues with the level being absolutely crushed by the saturator? I don’t feel like I’m giving it an incredibly hot signal but if I have much of any gain on the guitar signal prior to the saturation it hits some sort of hard compressor/limiter… I think?

It doesn’t seem nearly as pronounced in this video, but that feels like a very clean sound. User error maybe. I don’t want this to be a complaint, but @jaakjensen you may already have some details about the compressor/saturator that help me use it better?

Tangential question. The mix control presumably is only affecting the level of wet return signal, rather than affecting the amount of signal sent to the wet/on part of the pedal initially?

It’s great to see how this company is progressing and the positive reception to everything so far. Your support on here is incredibly helpful. Ribbons is essentially the centre of my setup/sound now. If I could only keep one pedal it would be this and (having not tried the Sparks) it’s not even close.